Some of us have created a split in the BJP anf the Hindu religious groups. Prof Prakash Kothari and I have worked with several Hindu religious leaders quoting Varamihra and Vatsayana who have tried to normalise same sex relations in their writing. Even Manu's penal provisions are rather light (having a cold water bath with clothes on which I can accept gleefully in summer).
We need war councils on how to tackle and split the bJP and vHP wide open as it is no use preaching to the converted liberal elements.
In any case this is going to be a concerted effort.
regards
Ashok Row Kavi
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Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:03 am
Subject: [lgbt-india] Hinduism does not condemn gay people: UK Hindu Council
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> Hinduism does not condemn gay people: UK Hindu Council
>
> Agencies Posted online: Friday , Jul 03, 2009 at 1311 hrs
>
> London : The Hindu Council UK welcomed the Delhi High Court's historic
> judgement which decriminalised consensual homo sexual relations
> and said
> Hinduism does not condemn gay people.
>
> British Hindu homosexual community will welcome the news that
> their brethren
> in India are now be able to enjoy the same freedom as they do
> here, Anil
> Bhanot, General Secretary Hindu Council UK said. It is indeed good
> news that
> people are not discriminated against because of God's laws of
> nature. Bhanot
> said the Hindu scripts describe the homosexual condition to be a
> "biologicalone, and although the scripture gives guidance to
> parents on how to avoid
> procreating a homosexual child, it does not condemn the child as
> unnatural.
>
> "Hinduism prescribes 16 ceremonies to mark each major stage in
> one's life
> span. We would usually observe the birth, name, adolescence, marriage,
> retirement and death ceremonies but there is a little known
> ceremony called
> the "insemination" ceremony or the Garbhadan Sanskaar, which I am sure
> nobody observes now-days."
>
> Bhanot said, "This insemination ceremony talks about
> homosexuality. The
> ancient Rishis or prophets advocated that there are two elements,
> fire (agni
> for sun) and water (soma for moon) which determine the sex of a
> child."
>
> "Of the 16 days from the end of the menstruation cycle, sexual
> intercoursefor the purposes of procreation was forbidden on
> certain days as during
> these days the menses may continue."
>
> The theory goes that if insemination takes place in the night of
> an even
> number from six to 16, a male child will be born whilst on an odd
> number of
> fifth, seventh, ninth and 15th night a female child will be born,
> Bhanotadded.
>
> "The scripture further forbids insemination on the 11th or the
> 13th night
> after the end of the menstruation cycle because then it says the
> child will
> be homosexual," he said.
>
> According to the scripture the sex of a child is determined by
> whether the
> fire element is dominant or the water element is dominant. Thus
> during those
> even nights the fire element dominates giving a male conception
> and during
> those odd nights the water element gives a female conception.
>
> However, if the fire element equals the water element then a
> homosexualconception takes place, Bhanot said. "The point here is
> that the homosexual
> nature is part of the natural law of God; it should be accepted
> for what it
> is, no more and no less.
>
> Hindus are generally conservative but it would seem to me that in
> ancientIndia they even celebrated sex as an enjoyable part of
> procreation, where
> priests were invited for ceremonies in their home to mark the
> beginning of
> process.
>
> In fact King Dasharath, who fathered Lord Rama around 2100 BC had
> one of the
> most lavish insemination ceremonies.
>
> "Homosexuals are full human beings, who in Hinduism even worship
> their own
> deity, the Mother Goddess Bahuchara, for their spiritual link to the
> Absolute Brahm.
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